Originally Posted by Riflecrank
Originally Posted by jwp475
Very impressive, this proves that a properly designed mono metal solid doesn't need to be 500 grains and the folly of falling for the SD nonsense

Yep, even the 325-gr/.458 brass FN of CEB with a BBW#13 nose shape projecting 0.6" ahead of first band is better than the old 500-gr/.458 RN FMJ "solid,"
even at same impact velocity, even at 2000 fps or less.
Lessons from MIB.

Here is the WFN copper Lehigh 380-grainer.
The sharp-edged, ~.35-caliber meplat may not penetrate as deeply as the BBW#13 nose profile,
but it will track straight
and dump energy faster, put more hurt on a big brown bear not needing as much penetration as an elephant.
It still does plenty of penetrating.
Feeds in my bolt actions if I keep them seated deeply enough.
That was the only surprise about this bullet for me:

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Sir Ron,
I think this 380 Lehigh will work out well for the 45-70 and faster 458's. The bc is not near what the 404 Hammer is, but for the limited visibility areas this bullet should knock the crap out of moose and/or bear from nearly any angle.