Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by gunner500

Originally Posted by jwp475

I'm amazed at the way these petal shed but penetrate and produce larger wound channels than traditional lead core expanding or even TSX or TTSX buts .
The petals shedders in lighter weight peneyrate deeper and leave larger wound channels.
Amazing


Cant wait to see/read what it does on truly heavy game [read Cape Buffalo] it's going to have to be a World Star to better the 450gr TSX at 2463 fps from my 458 WM+



I have some 416 Shock Hammer bullets and Micheal458 AKA MIB said that they will out penetrste the 350 grain TSX



Good to know and comparing apples and oranges i know, but a .585" 750gr TSX from my 577 Nitro double at only 2076 fps went into a Tanzanian Cape Buffalo at last left side rib at 16 yards to be found as a lump under the hide on the front of the right shoulder, at the shot the bull collapsed and began his death bellow as i moved quickly left to give him a solid through both shoulders.

If the 400/403gr Hammers will do that as i believe the 450gr TSX's most certainly will you guys will have a truly amazing projectile. smile


Sir Jerry,
I have trailed Doc M's ".458 Terminals" thread and found no 450-gr/.458 TSX testing.
Maybe someday he will get big-bored enough to do it.
I would be happy to supply him with both 450-gr and 500-gr TSX bullets and see if he would do them at the velocities that the .458 WM+ is capable of.
He has a .458 B&M EX ("Express/Extra") that would be able to equal the mighty .458 WM+ most likely,
without having to re-throat it, heh heh.
I will offer to supply the bullets to him and suggest ~2400 fps for the 450-grainer and ~2300 fps for the 500-grainer,
close enough to your loads:

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The 400-gr Shock Hammer might be for us with less chest hair than the 450-gr TSX shooters of the .458 WM+.
Both bullets will gitterdunn.
I'll post the above picture at his forum, if allowed, to try egging him on.

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