All Good Sir Ron, seems 82-83gr AA 2230 may be the ticket for 2450 fps with the 450gr TSX's in my WW-Super brass, 3-4 grains under primer blow is a safe spot, and i agree, Norma brass is soft, has been since way back in the day when i was shaking 460 WBY hulls to get more imr-4350 under those 500gr hornadys grin, i indeed exceeded the listed 2700 fps, at 2800 fps the brass was good for a couple firings.


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