Originally Posted by Wildcatter264
Originally Posted by ldmay375
Thank you.
So if the Speer manual is correct, the 375 Ruger/ 416 Ruger brass should have a slight more capacity in equal calibers.

Yes, both by calculation and actual measurement, the 375 Ruger case has significantly more capacity than the 458 WM case. I routinely load 83-85 grains of extruded powders in the 375 Ruger or in my wildcat 404-375 Ruger with monolithic solids - which are long for weight - or Barnes TSXs . No significant powder compression is needed to load these bullets and stay withing the COAL required in the MKII/Hawkeye magazines of 3.390-3.40".

Getting that much powder into the 458 WM case and then seating a 450 grain monolithic solid requires significant compression, unless you stick to spherical powders, like AA-2230. I was able to load 80 grains of 2230 behind a CEB BBW#13 today at COAL = 3.390" without trouble but the same charge with Varget required significant compression with the same bullet.
True, all that.
The RCBS Cartridge Creator algorithm shows
.416 Ruger = 101.5 gr water
.458/.416 Ruger = 104.2 gr water
That is for a simple necking up of the .416 Ruger
and keeping max brass length at 2.580" for both.

My fire-formed .458/.416 Ruger brass comes out
2.565" in length.
Measured case capacity for that average is 104.47 grains water.
Correcting to 2.580" max brass length gives 105.1 gr water.

Mine is a .458 Win Ruger and can be loaded to same long COL as the .458 WM+,
which is a longer COL than the SAAMI .458 Lott can handle.


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