Originally Posted by EdM
I would never swap my 416 Rem M70 for the same in 458 Win.

Originally Posted by RinB
EdM
I’m with you
R

Just sour grapes or recoil shy ?

Originally Posted by jwp475
Never swap, acquire both
Amen, Sir John.
The only .416 Rem. Mag. I have on hand is one of the Winchester M70 Big Five rifles with a gold cape buffalo adorning the floor plate.
My other M70 Classic .416 RemMag got rebarreled to .458 WinMag, I call her Marcella, sub-8 pounds bare weight.
The .458 thump is so much more pleasing on both ends than a .416,
and the .458 WinMag is the most versatile sporting rifle of all time,
from sub-Trapdoor level loads
(paper-patched-BP, FN cast or VLD jacketed subsonic smokeless loads, etc.)
to supersonics at .45-70 levels
or leaving the .458 Lott in the dust.
The 404-gr/.458 Shock Hammer with BC of .419 and MV of +2500 fps leaves nothing to be desired
for any game not requiring a solid bullet.

The .458 WinMag does not require a SAAMI MAP of 65,000 psi like the .416 RemMag, bless its heart.

I have kept some other .416-caliber rifles on hand too, just for fun:
.416 Taylor
.416 Ruger
.416 Dakota
.416 Rigby
.416 Weatherby Magnum
.416 Barrett


Ron aka "Rip" for Riflecrank Internationale Permanente
NRA Life Benefactor and Beneficiary
.458 Winchester Magnum, Magnanimous in Victory
THE WALKING DEAD does so remind me of Democrap voters. Donkeypox.