Originally Posted by okie
I have a box of boolets that says Trump will not be impeached. Period... No other disclaimers. Future R congress or D congress does not matter as long as he holds office.

I will even sweeten that deal and offer your choice of bets.

I will put up ten boxes of bullets of your choice buy them now and place them in escrow.
The bet; Trump will not be impeached for anything he has done to date 5-25-17. This bet to be settled on 12-31-18..
You put up, since you posted to me a year ago that you would no longer engage in politics "because you sucked at it", your word that you WILL NO LONGER hold political discourse here on the Fire. You do not have to leave the Fire just no more politics for you...period ...

Now this is a stretch for me since you have already said once you would no longer be discussing politics (since you suck at it) and have not kept your word but I will give you the chance to be good and hold you to a gentleman's bet....Are you having any of it?


Hi Okie,

That's not an unreasonable offer. It's not what *I've* been floating out there; what I have been trying to get takers on is that Trump and/or members of his campaign would be "shown", prior to the 2018 midterms, to have colluded with Russia, because earlier in this thread most everyone was in vehement denial that collusion was even a possibility. One of my prime motivators here, on this thread, has been to try to pry open some brains so as to let a bit of reality seep in; that reality being, that any well-informed dot-connector would have to concede this likelihood. Either I succeeded at that, or else the events that have been reported since we started this thread have opened some eyes, or else these guys are just gutless... but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of resistance around here anymore to the notion that there was likely collusion, as evidenced by the near-total lack of simple 1:1 bets about that, try as I might to find takers.

So my next goal is to get folks to concede that such collusion would be a big deal, also vehemently denied in these parts.

Now, as I've said recently and more than once, I'm starting to think that it's at least possible that Trump himself knew nothing of any collusion. I mean it's either that or he just colossally clueless; his actions recently (firing Comey, saying publically that Russia was a reason, bragging to the Russians about it, etc) are really hard for me to understand in the context of him being personally guilty of this, but if he's clean, then they are at least understandable, if really, really tone-deaf. If he's guilty of it, they can only be seen as some kind of desperate, extremely high-stakes bluff and I don't think that's what's happening here. Or, he could think that his base is so willing to believe anything that comes out of his mouth that he's playing to the base in a misguided attempt to.... I don't know... start a revolution?! That doesn't make sense either. So, at this moment my particular guess is that he personally was not involved in the collusion. But as always- I could be wrong about that.

Back to your offer. I'm inclined to take your first bet, if for no other reason than to just FINALLY get one on the books, but we need to clarify a couple things first. Most important is what do you mean by "impeached"? Impeachment is a 2-step process. The House passes articles of impeachment, the Senate convicts. Bill Clinton is said to have been "impeached", but he was obviously not convicted in the Senste, nor removed from office.So, what do *you* mean by it?

Because I kinda suspect he'll end up leaving office through other means, technically. Nixon, for example, resigned.

Let me know what you are thinking there. And THANKS for being, I dunno, real.

The CENTER will hold.

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