Weird to heAr that grouse numbers are down in your AO JeffO. My family and friends down that way has been slaughtering them from the coast to the hills so far this years. Up here in Western WA. I have been out 7 times since grouse opened 09/01 and we have had no issue in getting 4 bird limits for 2-4 guys every time within a few hours. Lots of mushrooms along the overgrown logging roads as well.