Back in the day it wasn't uncomon for someone to put a pan of charcoal under the crankcase to get things going. Of course 6 volt batteries were standard than too.

Tom, I doubt that I'll ever see 15K posts.

Change of subject. What cell phone carriers are being used by this group. I'm thinking about changing. Was with Alltel which was bought up by Verizon, but the local franchise didn't convert and started up a new company (Element). Looking at US Cellular and Sprint right now. Nearest Verizon office is 65 miles away.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except for bears. Bears kill you.