This kid was 17 and all hard up to "prove" himself. Worse part he tried to blame another guy we were hunting with who only had ten slugs at the start of the day. He used two on a doe that morning and another sighting his shotgun in when he thought he bumped the sights off, afterwards he was still at 7.

Didn't matter how safe we were, went thru the whole safety discussion and plan, pointed out on aerial photos how and where people were to be, when it came right down to it he got all fired up and didn't think.

Group we hunt with now don't quite understand why my boys are not allowed to have rounds in their rifles during a drive or if they are posted have to have an adult with them but they understand that is how it is with my kids until I decide they are ready. My oldest was complaining about it this year and I just let him go until we got home then I dug out that hat and put it on the table in front of him, he just got real quiet and said ok.