I remember one time my older brother and his friend were going to "meet at the fish house".
As luck would have have it,we arrived at the same time from different directions.Me with my brother in a new chevy blazer,and the friend in a small nissan sedan.They both found out that glare ice is hard to stop on,as they collided head on in front of the fish house door.
This was on a small metro lake,with dozens of houses in close proximity,most of which emptied to see what all the noise was about.
I still bring it up from time to time. laugh

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[the member formerly known as fluffy}